The New Covenant and Israel’s Role in the Earthly Phase of the Kingdom

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Short Summary
The study examines Jeremiah 31:27-34 and related scriptures to discuss the new covenant God will make specifically with Israel, distinct from the old law covenant. It highlights that this covenant involves God’s law written on hearts, personal accountability for sin, and a transformative spiritual relationship, with the church and ancient worthies playing key roles in its establishment. The discussion also explores the future fulfillment of prophetic events like Jacob’s trouble and the expansion of the new covenant blessings to all nations through Jerusalem as a spiritual center.

Long Summary
Detailed Summary of the Bible Study on Jeremiah 31:27-34 and Related Scriptures

Reading and Context of Jeremiah 31:27-34
– The passage speaks of a future time when God will “sow the house of Israel and Judah” with the seed of man and beast, symbolizing restoration and blessing (v. 27).
– God contrasts His previous actions of judgment and affliction with a promise to watch over Israel to build and plant them (v. 28).
– The passage introduces a “new covenant” with Israel and Judah, distinct from the old covenant made when God brought them out of Egypt, which they broke (v. 31-32).
– This new covenant involves God putting His law in their inward parts and writing it on their hearts, making them His people and Himself their God, with universal knowledge of Him among the people (v. 33-34).
– God promises to forgive their iniquity and remember their sins no more (v. 34).

Nature and Recipients of the New Covenant (Jeremiah 31:32)
– The covenant referred to in verse 32 is the old Mosaic law covenant.
– The new covenant is specifically made with the house of Israel (natural Israel), though it will eventually extend blessings to other nations.
– This covenant is not yet fully realized; it is future, associated with the end of “Jacob’s trouble” (a prophetic time of distress for Israel, linked with Ezekiel 38).
– The restoration of Israel as a nation and its settlement in the land since 1878 and 1948 are seen as preparatory steps for this new covenant.

Personal Responsibility and Accountability (Jeremiah 31:29-30)
– The passage emphasizes individual accountability: “every one shall die for his own iniquity.”
– The old idea that children suffer for the sins of their fathers will end.
– This indicates a future time when judgment will be based on personal choices, not inherited Adamic sin.

Comparison with Hebrews 8:6-13
– Hebrews 8:6-13 is cited to reinforce the idea of a “better covenant” mediated by Christ, not according to the old covenant.
– This new covenant involves God writing His laws on the minds and hearts of His people.
– The old covenant was broken; the new covenant promises internal transformation and forgiveness.

Characteristics and Effects of the New Covenant (Jeremiah 31:33-34)
– Four key features:
1. Law written on the heart rather than on stone tablets—indicating a spiritual internalization rather than external observance.
2. God will be intimately known by all from the least to the greatest.
3. A close personal relationship: “I will be their God, and they shall be my people.”
4. Complete forgiveness and forgetting of sins.
– The new covenant marks a shift from letter-of-the-law to spirit-of-the-law (2 Corinthians 3:6).
– The law is expected to be simpler, possibly summarized by Jesus’ commands to love God and neighbor.

2 Corinthians 3:2-6 on the New Covenant
– The apostle Paul describes the new covenant as a “ministry of the Spirit” contrasted with the “letter” which kills.
– The new covenant is a “letter from Christ” written on human hearts by the Spirit of God.
– The law of the new covenant gives life and glory beyond the old covenant.

Role of Love in the New Covenant
– Love for God and neighbor is central.
– Love includes loving strangers and enemies, transforming relationships.
– The parable of the sheep and goats (Matthew 25) reflects the application of love and righteousness in the kingdom age.

The Nucleus of the New Covenant: Natural Israel and the Ancient Worthies
– Psalm 45:16-17: The “sons” who will be princes in all the earth may refer to glorified church (the ancient worthies) who will help rule.
– Hebrews 11:39-40: The ancient worthies (faithful men and women before Christ) will be made perfect in conjunction with the church.
– These ancient worthies will assist in the kingdom, particularly during and after Jacob’s trouble.
– Jacob’s trouble (often linked to Ezekiel 38 invasion) refers to a future time of great distress for Israel before final restoration.

The Holy Remnant in Israel
– Isaiah 4:2-4 describes a “holy remnant” surviving judgment and being purified.
– Daniel 12:1-3 speaks of Michael (Christ) standing up for Israel at a time of unprecedented distress, rescuing those “written in the book,” with a resurrection of the righteous.
– This remnant is identified as natural Israel, who will be preserved through Jacob’s trouble and be part of the new covenant.

Judgment and Purging of Israel (Ezekiel 20:33-38)
– God will judge Israel face to face in the wilderness of peoples.
– Rebels and transgressors will be purged; only those faithful will enter the land.
– This purging prepares Israel to enter the new covenant.

Expansion of the New Covenant to All Nations
– Isaiah 54:1-3: The “children of the desolate” (interpreted as the spiritual seed of Sarah, i.e., Christ and the church) will outnumber natural Israel’s seed (children of Hagar).
– The kingdom tent will be enlarged to include Gentile nations under the new covenant blessings.
– Jeremiah 3:14-18: The backsliding children will return; Jerusalem will be the throne of the Lord; all nations will be gathered there.
– Jerusalem will be the political and spiritual capital, symbolic of God’s presence on earth.
– Isaiah 2:2-4: The mountain of the Lord (Jerusalem) will be exalted, and all nations will come to learn God’s ways.

Future Kingdom and God’s Presence
– Revelation 21:3 mentions God’s dwelling with men, emphasizing God’s presence in the new order.
– The rebuilding of the Temple (Ezekiel’s temple) is anticipated as part of the kingdom restoration.
– Jerusalem’s central role is supported by its geographical and prophetic significance.

Discussion on Timing and Interpretation
– Some brethren believe Jacob’s trouble began progressively in 1878; others see it as a future event tied to Ezekiel 38.
– The return of Christ and the establishment of the new covenant is a future event.
– The restoration of Israel to the land since 1878/1948 is preparatory but the full new covenant and kingdom blessings are yet to come.

Modern Application and Commentary
– Avi Abalo, a Messianic Jewish broadcaster, speaks about the Jewish people building a society reflecting God’s holiness and justice, symbolizing a positive development in Israel reflecting the new covenant hope.
– The emphasis is on God’s presence among His people and their mission to bring holiness to the world.

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Key Bible Verses Referenced:

– Jeremiah 31:27-34
– Hebrews 8:6-13
– 2 Corinthians 3:2-6
– Psalm 45:16-17
– Hebrews 11:39-40
– Isaiah 4:2-4
– Daniel 12:1-3
– Ezekiel 20:33-38
– Isaiah 54:1-3
– Jeremiah 3:14-18
– Isaiah 2:2-4
– Revelation 21:3
– Ezekiel 38 (Jacob’s trouble context)

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Summary:

This study explores the prophecy of the new covenant in Jeremiah 31, emphasizing its future establishment with natural Israel after a time of judgment and restoration (“Jacob’s trouble”). The new covenant differs from the old in that God’s law will be internalized, known intimately by all, and accompanied by personal accountability and forgiveness. The ancient worthies (faithful servants from the past) and a holy remnant of Israel will form the nucleus of this covenant. The kingdom, centered in Jerusalem, will expand to include all nations under God’s rule, symbolizing universal knowledge of God and righteousness. The study also touches on modern developments in Israel as a sign of preparation for this fulfillment, while acknowledging differences in interpretation regarding the timing of these prophetic events.

Transcript

Oh, sorry. I’ll call on individual brethren to do the reading of the Scriptures, and then if you want to give a comment, feel free to do so, or you can pass, and then we’ll discuss it further. Okay, so let’s go to Jeremiah 31:27 to 34, and we’ll have. Let’s. Let’s see.

Well, Brother David, why don’t you start us off? Yeah. Brother David Rice. Jeremiah 31, 27, 34, and the first question is, what covenant is referred to in verse 32, Jeremiah 31.

Can you tell me the verses again? 27, 34. Thank you. Jeremiah 31:27. Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will sew the house of Israel and the house of Judah with the seed of man and with the seed of beast.

And it shall come to pass that like as I have watched over them to pluck up and to break down, and to throw down, and to destroy and to afflict, so will I watch over them to build and to plant, saith the Lord. In those days they shall say no more. The fathers have eaten a sour grape, and the children’s teeth are set on edge. But every one shall die for his own iniquity. Every man that eateth the sour grape, his teeth shall be set on edge.

Behold, the days come, saith Jehovah, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah, not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them out of the land and to bring them out of, took them by the hand, excuse me, to bring them out of the land of Egypt, which my covenant they break, although I was an husband unto them, saith the Lord. But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith Jehovah, I will put my law in their inward parts and write it in their hearts, and will be their God, and they shall be my people, and they shall teach no more, every man his neighbor and every man his brother, saying, know the Lord, for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith Jehovah. For I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more. Okay.

Thank you, brother David. So in verse 32, what is the covenant that is being referred to, and how does this relate to the new covenant and with whom it will be made?

Brother David, I moved just by reading the passage, just to think about when all of this is finally going to happen. But your question was in verse 32, what was the covenant referred to? Right. That would be the old law covenant, and so if he made the old law covenant with Israel, that means the new covenant is made with Israel.

Exactly, and that’s the point. Of course, it’ll expand widely and wonderfully, but made with Israel. Yeah. So the new law covenant will be made only with Israel, and other nations will have the opportunity to come in under that arrangement.

Right in the kingdom when it is made. I feel personally toward the end of Jacob’s trouble, we’ll get into that in a little bit later time. But other nations will be able to join in, so to speak, with that covenant. But it will be made only with the nation of Israel, just as the original law covenant was, as brother David mentioned.

And it shows here in verses 28, 27 and 28, that just as the Lord plucked them up, right, he’s going to watch over them and he’s going to build them up and to plant them, saith the Lord, in their land, and of course, we’ve seen that already with the events, you know, starting with 1878, when their period of disfavor ended. 1845 years of disfavor ended in 1878, and their period of favor began, and so they were able to go back to the land with Theodore Herzl, his work, and settle Israel, and of course, 1948, the establishment of the nation of Israel.

So they are being brought back to their land and settled and planted for the purpose of having the new covenant made with them in the near future. Okay.

And of course, verses 29 and 30, what period of time do those verses refer to? The events that are described in 29 and 30, when it says in those days that refer to the days of the Gospel age or not?

Brother Mark? Yeah. Oh, brother Derek.

29 and 30, and in those days they shall say no more. The fathers have eaten a sour grape and the children’s teeth are set on edge. So this is this new law covenant period that we’re talking about here. We’re not going to blame our fathers for our mistakes or punishments have been given in the past have been wiped out.

So I was just going to mention, for what you’re describing, Hebrews 8 is also where you can find your answers to. Okay. Oh, good. Thank you.

Was there something specific about Hebrews 8 that you wanted, a certain verse, Derek, that you wanted to bring to our attention?

Verse 6. But now he has obtained a more excellent ministry by how much? Also he is the mediator of a better covenant. Which is established upon better promises, and it goes on to say, not according to the Old Covenant, verse nine, that I made with their fathers in that day when I took them by the hand and led them out of the land of Egypt, because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord, for this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my law into their mind and write them in their hearts.

And I will be with them a God, and they shall be to me a people. Right, thank you. Yeah, and in Brother Tom’s study yesterday, Brother Tom Gilbert covered those verses very well. We discussed that yesterday, so thank you for bringing that to our attention.

So what are some of the results or conditions of this new law covenant as described in verses 33 and 34?

What will be different about the new law covenant and its operation and effect that did not occur under the old law covenant?

Now, we don’t know really what the laws of the new covenant will be, do we? I think the Ten Commandments, the essence of the Ten Commandments, will be part of that new covenant. But as far as what the actual writing of that new covenant will be, we don’t. We don’t know yet. But we can see the effect that it will have upon them in these verses.

Sister Shrill, I would say that there’s four things that are listed here, and it’s the difference between the letter and the spirit. Yeah. So first, it’s good. He’s going to pour his law. I’m sorry.

I will put my law within them and on their heart I will write it. So the law is not going to be written in stone, but on the heart. So it’s going to come from a character that more closely resembles the Lord. By the time it’s finished, I will be their God and they shall be my people. They knew of God, but at this point, it will be knowing God more intimately, not just knowing of God.

When I will forget. Oh, there’s one more. Where is it? They shall all know me. So he’ll be their God, and they will know him and I will forgive their iniquities.

And so it’s a fresh start, a new beginning where things will be more from the Spirit, less from the letter. Right. Exactly. Thank you. Any other comments on that part of the.

Sister Debbie?

All right, thank you, J. Going back to what Brother Derek was saying, continuing that thought in verse 30, it says that every. Or is that verse 30, everyone shall die for his own sins. Right. That’s also a real big part of this.

This covenant and shows us what time frame we should put this in. Right. That shows personal account, personal accountability. Personal. Yeah.

This is when the judgment for the world begins. Right. Right now they’re under Adamic sin, but gradually, under the mediation, they will be given the opportunity. Right. To be an individual judgment.

Right, and sentence. Yeah. That the new covenant will carry that with it for the world of mankind. Over.

Thank you. At the present time, you know, the world is still under Adamic condemnation. So, you know. You know, people can say, well, I have this problem because of Adam, you know, or because I inherited it from my parents or grandparents. But in the next age, under the new covenant, that will not be an excuse.

No one can say that anymore. They will make progress or not based on. On their own choices and decisions and activities. Brother Tom? Yeah.

I was intrigued by your kind of rhetorical question about we don’t know what the laws will be in that covenant, and I was looking at the verse, and it says law. I don’t know why I can’t look at the Hebrew to see if it’s singular, plural. But in the English, it seems singular. But I’m wondering if, as I thought about it, if the new covenant is as simple as you shall love the Lord your God and your neighbor as yourself could be.

Yeah. Covers all the law and the prophets. It does, and I think the new covenant will be infinitely simpler than the old law covenant. Yeah.

Okay, good. Thank you. Any other comments on that? Brother Obi over here. Andre, over here.

Second Corinthians, chapter three is an example that the apostle gives us of one of the new. The features that will prevail of the new covenant, and one of the things that really appeals to me in that section of Scripture there, Brother Mark, is that he will write his law on their parts, and that will be the game changer. So of Christian people. In verse 2 and 3, Paul notes to the brethren at Corinth that you yourselves are our letter of recommendation, written on our hearts to be known and read by all.

And you show that you are a letter from Christ delivered by us, written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God, not on tablets of stone, but on tablets of human hearts. So there’s a powerful testimony to the work of Christ in the present age, before this covenant is established, with Israel continuing on in verse 6. Of God, who has made us sufficient to be ministers of a new covenant, not of the letter, but of the Spirit. For the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life now, if the ministry of death carved in letters on stone came with such glory that the Israelites could not gaze at Moses face because of its glory, which was being brought to an end, will not the ministry of the Spirit have even more glory? So there’s a saying that you can’t legislate morality, and that’s so true.

You know, we have many laws, moral laws in civilized countries, but there are still egregious violations of those laws. But I believe that when the Lord’s spirit is poured out upon all flesh and the power of Christ with the rule of the rod of iron comes into play, that will change and that will change hearts, and that will be a very beautiful thing. Thank you. Thank you, Brother Hoby. Thanks for bringing that up to our attention.

2nd Corinthians 3. 6. Not of the letter, but of the Spirit. The letter killeth, but the Spirit giveth life, and that’s a big contrast between the old and the new law covenants.

Any other? Brother Dan?

Yeah, I like what brother Tom said. I was thinking the same thing. Is it as simple as Jesus’s words about all the law and the prophets can be summed up in two commands. Love God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your strength, and your neighbor as yourself. Then I thought of the other verses that are similar to that.

Love the stranger in the land, for you are strangers in the land of Egypt, I am the Lord. So that’s reflecting God’s love, and that’s what they will do. That’s what humanity will be brought back in heart condition to the love that God had and originally put into Adam’s heart, and so I really like that.

And then also I think what will be combined is the concept of love your enemies because then your enemies disappear. They become your friend. Right. Thank you. Yeah.

And the other, the parable that that ties into that is the parable of the sheep and the goats, which will apply in the next age. Well, when did we see our neighbor hungry or naked or in need, you know, and we didn’t come to help him so that, you know, to love your neighbor as yourself and love the Lord your God. You know, that concept ties in with the parable of the sheep and goats, which will be in effect in the next age. Any other comments on that? Okay, let’s move on to the next section.

What are some of the. Oh, we did that one already. Number two, who else as part of natural Israel, will be the nucleus of the new covenant? Now we’re going to read quite a few scriptures Here, let’s see. Sister Janet, could you read Psalm 45, 16, and 17?

And Sister April, could you read Hebrews 11, 39 and 40?

And let’s see who’s Sister Debbie Moss, Isaiah 4:2 through 4.

And let’s see, someone over here, Sister Rachel, is that. Okay, Daniel 12, 1 3. We’ll read. We’ll do those for now, and then we’ll. We’ll discuss them.

Okay. Psalm 45, 16, and 17.

And let me just ask another question, Janet, if you want to consider it, if you have any questions or answers for it, what event after, when you read these scriptures, what event will happen will just precede what you’re going to read? Okay. In other words, in verses 13 and 14. Okay. In place of your fathers shall be your sons.

You will make them princes in all the earth. I will cause your name to be remembered in all generations. Therefore nations will praise you forever and ever. So who’s the you in this verse? In verse 16, I think the you in verse 16 in one sense is the nation of Israel, speaking of their fathers, which would now be their sons, who would be made princes in the earth.

But in a sense of context, we have the previous verses which speak of church and their glorification, and so they will be the ones who will be kind of overseeing this process that is going to come into being. Right? Yeah. Another.

Yeah. Jesus in the church. You know, Abraham, Isaac and Jacob were Jesus ancestors. Right, and so now instead of them being his fathers, they will become the children of Jesus in the church, as you mentioned in the kingdom, because our Lord and the church will give them perfect human life or help them up the highway of holiness to attain to human perfection.

So there’s the ancient worthies. Okay. In addition to Israel in general, Another verse, Hebrews 11, 39 and 40, Sister April will read that for us, and if you have any comments on that, April, feel free to say so. All right.

Verses 39 and 40, and all these, having gained approval through their faith, did not receive what was promised because God had provided something better for us, so that apart from us, they should not be made perfect, and this is again an entire chapter about the ancient worthies, those who were the people of God predating Israel, and their also would be part of that nucleus of the new covenant. Okay, thank you. Yeah.

So in verse 39, the ancient Ruthies received a good report or good testimony based on their faith. Right, and they were called the friends of God, not the sons of God, but the friends of God. In verse 40, God having provided something better for us, those running for the high calling that they should not be made perfect apart from us, that they, the ancient worthies will not reach full perfection without the help and interdiction on the part of the church in glory. So when the ancient worthies are raised, in my opinion, they will need some further help in character development, I think, to get them ready to be princes in all the earth so they can be examples for people as they come back from their graves.

Does that make sense? Jacob’s trouble is going to be a very. When I say Jacob’s trouble, I’m referring to Ezekiel 38. I see brother Len and brother David here, and I saw your discussion in Chicago New Year’s. Right.

On Jacob’s trouble, and yes, that phrase can refer to other periods of trouble that Israel has gone through. But in my context, when I say Jacob Shovel, I’m referring specifically to Ezekiel 38, invasion. Okay. When that’s over, there’s going to be a lot of chaos and confusion.

I think that’s when the ancient worthies will come forth and will help to settle things down. Okay. In preparation for the new covenant to be made with Israel. Does that make sense? Any thoughts on that?

That sort of sequence of events or timing? Brother Lynn?

So the church in glory, that’s the point. I’m trying to make sure the church glory will help the ancient worthies with their further development. Yeah, it was just a suggestion. Because in Hebrews 11:6, it does say, without faith, it is impossible to please God, and the church really is tested by faith.

The ancient worthies were tested by faith. But my understanding is, as I look at the new covenant being installed, it’s not a test of faith, it’s the test of works, and so there is a difference there, and I think that’s when we didn’t read the Ezekiel passage, but I think that’s in the Ezekiel passage that you had listed back in Ezekiel 18. I was always perplexed sometimes by verse 35 or 34.

I’m sorry, 24, which you had there. It says, when the righteous turn away from his righteousness, commit iniquity, who is according abominations, the wicked man doeth, shall he live. All his righteousness that he hath done shall not be mentioned in his trespass that he has trespassed, and in his sin that he has sinned, in them shall he die. Right. So that, to me, is where that test that the other little season comes in.

I mean, no matter how good they were, if a man turns from his righteousness, you know, that each man dies for his own iniquity, and so anyways, I think it’s.

The difference is it’s a covenant of works, really, when we look at the new covenant as it relates to the world. Right. I meant to. I. I missed that. Ezekiel.

Yeah, I meant to have that read, but. So thanks for bringing that back to our attention, Brother Tom over here, and then Sister Janet.

Well, I, I’d like to just challenge that statement, Brother Lennox. I mean, the, The. The statement in, in Hebrews 11 does not say, without faith it’s impossible to please God. In the patriarchal and gospel age, faith will always be required, and, and it is a.

A matter of faith. People in, in the kingdom will still have to exercise faith in the source of their life and in the source of their redemption.

And I’ve heard this many times that faith won’t be required because everything will be revealed. No, the scripture says without faith it’s impossible to please God. I do not think that’s limited to just certain ages. Just my thought. Okay.

No, good thought. Yeah, thank you. I agree.

Yeah. Sister Janet, right over here.

Just a supporting scripture for the sequence that you just related to us about how peace will come to Israel. Micah. The fifth chapter verses say Micah. Micah, Micah. Okay.

Micah 5, verses 5 to 7. When the Assyrian comes into our land and treads in our places, then we will raise against him seven shepherds and eight princes of men. They shall shepherd the land of Assyria with the sword, and the land of Nimrod at his entrances, and he shall deliver us from the Assyrian. When he comes into our land and treads within our border, then the remnant of Jacob shall be in the midst of many peoples, like dew from the Lord, like showers on the grass, which delay not for a man, nor wait for the children of men.

And in my studies, I would say that the time sequence of this is towards the end of the 38th chapter of Ezekiel, as you mentioned, and the manner in which peace will come will be through the seven shepherds, which I think would be the church, and the eight princes of men, which would be the ancient worthies, because they will be the rulers in the new order, and we know that 8 pictures a new order of things, and then verse 7 after this takes place, then the remnant shall be in the midst of many peoples. Right.

Oh, good. Thank you, Anna, for that. It was Micah 5, 5 through 8. Yeah. Thank you.

Okay, now let’s go on to Sister Debbie. Yeah. Isaiah 4, 2, 4, and then Sister Rachel over here, Daniel 12, 1, 3, and we’ll see what you think here about this concept of the holy remnant.

Okay. First, let’s go to Isaiah 4:2 through 4:2 through 4. In that day the radiance of Jehovah will lead. Beauty will lend beauty and glory and the splendor of the land will give dignity and majesty to the survivors of Israel and those who remain in Zion and are left in Jerusalem. All who are inscribed for life in Jerusalem shall be called holy.

Even my Lord has washed away the filth of the daughters of Zion, and from Jerusalem’s mist has rinsed out her infamy in a spirit of judgment and in a spirit of purging. That was through verse four. Yeah, that’s good. Yeah.

So at the end of verse two, this idea of those who are escaped. Okay. Verse three, everyone who is recorded among the living in Jerusalem after they go through a spirit of purging and a spirit of judgment. The end of verse two, those of Israel who have escaped. Escaped from what?

Those who have survived what, Jacob’s trouble or the worst of the Jacob’s trouble. Yeah, yeah, I agree. Okay. Any other thoughts? And so there’ll be this holy remnant who will come through Jacob’s struggle.

I personally feel the holy remnant are in Israel. Whoever they are, they’re being developed and they’re, you know, God is working with them to develop their faith to survive this coming trouble and be part of the nucleus of the new covenant in the next age.

Any other comments on these scriptures here? Isaiah 4 that Sister Debbie just read?

The other ones that tie in are Daniel 12, 1, 2, 3. Sister Rachel will read for us. Let’s see. Let’s get there first. Sister Rachel.

Okay, Daniel 12:1 3. Now, at that time, Michael, the great prince who stands guard over the sons of your people will arise and there will be a time of distress such as never occurred since there was a nation until that time, and at that time, your people, everyone who is found, written in the book, will be rescued. Many of those who sleep in the dust of the ground will awake. Those to these to everlasting life, but the others to disgrace and everlasting contempt.

Those who have insight will shine brightly like the brightness of the expanse of heaven, and those who lead the many to righteousness, like the stars, forever and ever. Okay, thank you. So in this chapter, who are Daniel’s people?

Brother David. That would be Israel. That’s Daniel. Daniel’s people were Israel. Right.

Okay, and the end of verse one, everyone who is found, written in the book. Okay, how. How could that tie in with Isaiah where it Says those who escape will. A record of the living that we just read in Isaiah 4.

You think there’s a tie in with.

You’re asking me indirectly, yeah, I’m asking you directly. I’m sorry. I’ll put you on the spot, David. Got to get my mind on this. Let’s see, Michael standing up would be, of course, Jesus at his return.

In my opinion, this is prophetic, but interpretive. This is Jesus at the seventh trump, when the kingdom of this world becomes the kingdom of our Lord and his Christ. Right. So then he’s going to stand for the children of thy people. That would be Israel.

Israel’s being regathered to our day, and then it says everyone written in the book.

I’m inclined to think that’s talking about spiritual Israel. Verse 2. Many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, some to shame and lasting contempt. Well, there’s. There’s everlasting life would be, of course, you could say the church or the great.

The angel worthies the shame and lasting contempt until they’re restored in the kingdom and they’re healed and they’re blessed. But I don’t want to get too far away from your point. I think your point is this is when Israel is going to be restored and Israel is going to be a nation for the kingdom, right? Yes, absolutely. I think that that’s true.

In particular, the end of verse two. At that time, your people shall be delivered from Jacob’s trouble. I mean, I’m including. I’m adding that in. I think that ties in with Isaiah 4.

Those who have escaped that trouble will be recorded. Their names will be recorded. Isaiah 4, and here we have those written names written in the book. I think, to me, it’s the survivors of Israel who come through Jacob’s trouble will have some sort of a record of who they are.

Okay, great. I’ll chat with you later. Okay. I’m just interested in your view and I thank you for it. Thank you.

I don’t. Okay. Verse one there. I don’t see the church being pictured in there, but I think this is still natural Israel. Okay.

Sister Janet, That is a very intriguing thought, Brother Mark. I like it very much about their names being recorded in the book. It ties in with Isaiah 4. It will also tie in very well with the text we’re going to read in Ezekiel 20 about the remnant who come through Jacob’s trouble. So thank you for that insight.

Oh, sure. Now we’re going to read. So, yes, Sister Rachel, let’s read. No, she left. Isaiah 10:20 to 23.

Let’s see Sister Kim back there. So we’ll have her read that. Isaiah 10:20 to 23, and brother Comey, Ezekiel 20:33 to 38.

Now let’s wait till we get there. Kim. Isaiah 10:20 to 23 dot Okay.

And it shall come to pass in that day that the remnant of Israel and such are escaped of the house of Jacob shall no more again stay upon him that smote them, but shall stay upon the Lord, the Holy One of Israel. In truth, the remnant shall return even the remnant of Jacob unto the mighty God. For though thy people Israel be as the sand of the sea, yet a remnant of them shall return. The consumption decreed shall overflow with righteousness, for the Lord God of hosts shall make a consumption even determined in the midst of all the land. Thank you.

I think that’s pretty clear and pretty specific as to who this remnant is. The remnant of Jacob. Right.

Any other. Any other comments or questions back there? No? Okay. Ezekiel 20:33 to 38.

Let’s see. Just a minute, Comey. By the way, Ezekiel. Okay. Ezekiel 20:33 to 38.

Ezekiel 20:33. As I live, declares the Lord God, Surely with a mighty hand and with an outstretched arm, and with wrath poured out, I shall be king over you, and I shall bring you out from the peoples and gather you from the lands where you are scattered. With a mighty hand, and with an outstretched arm, and with a wrath poured out, and I shall bring you into the wilderness of the peoples, and there I shall enter into judgment with you face to face. As I entered into judgment with your fathers in the wilderness of the land of Egypt, so I will enter into judgment with you, declares the Lord God, and I shall make you pass under the rod, and I shall bring you into the bond of the covenant, and I shall purge you.

I shall purge from you the rebels and those who transgress against me, and I shall bring them out of the land where they sojourn, but they will not enter the land of Israel. Thus you will know that I am the Lord. Yeah. Thank you. So I like verse 37 in particular.

Right. I will make you pass under the rod, and I will bring you into the hand, into the bond of the covenant, urging out the rebels again. I think this could refer to Jacob’s trouble and those Jews in Israel who do not have the faith of Abraham. You know, Israel today there are very many secular Jews who are there, but they have no faith in God and no faith in Abraham or the Covenants, and so perhaps they will be the ones who will be purged out and the rest will be brought into the bond of the covenant here in verse 37, the new covenant.

Brother Tom, Just a quick comment in response to, you know, the question. The nucleus of the New Covenant is to just reference back to the scripture that Brother Obi read earlier in Second Corinthians about the church as the ministers of the New Covenant. Okay, thank you.

Have any of you heard of the name Avi Abalo? You know Avi? Yeah, Sister Debbie.

He’s. He’s a young. He’s about. I would say 50, 50 ish. He was born in New York.

Right. He’s American, and he made aliyah to Israel with his parents. He was a young boy when they made aliyah to Israel, and he has several programs.

One’s called the Pulse of Israel. The other one’s called the Israel Video Network, something like that, if you’ve ever listened to that, and the comments that he makes about his faith in being back in the land of Israel are really remarkable. Sister Debbie, did you. Well, yeah, like you, I listen to Avi a lot to get my news, but I have a question.

Okay. Am I hearing it be said that the work that’s being done in Israel since 1878 is not being reflected in the verses we just read, but that that is a future. This will be a future dis. Fulfillment.

Maybe. Maybe I’m not understanding correctly what Brother David said and what. What you said and what some are saying. So could you just elaborate the previous verses we read where God says, I will. I will.

I plucked you out, but now I will bring you back and plant you in the land that I think is occurring now. Okay. For their future role to be more of a. To be more part of the administration of the new Covenant in the future, and so the Daniel 12 one, though, is future Jacob’s trouble.

Yeah. Daniel 12. Daniel 12 one where Michael stands up with his people for the Jewish people. Yeah. You think that has not happened yet?

I think that will be. Well, I think that would be specifically with reference to. Right. In Jacob’s trouble. Okay, so it hasn’t happened yet.

I’m sorry, maybe we don’t want to talk about this because if you think it’s progressive, maybe that’s where some of us get the concept that our Lord has returned. He has stood up for Israel. He is the king of Israel, as it said in Ezekiel. But it sounds like I’m hearing something different. But maybe I. I should talk afterwards to get this Other thought that’s being shared.

Okay. Yeah. Thank you, Brother David.

Well, just to clarify, in case there was a confusion on what I said, I think that that does talk about the return of Christ and the time when he begins to stand for the children of his people, and that this can begin from the beginning of the restoration and then forward. But we’re certainly not into the time when he’s made the covenant with Israel yet. That’s absolutely future, right? No question. Yeah, yeah, no question.

But anyway, there’s a lot of details here I’d love to talk about later. Yeah, that’s a good, good point. Brother David mentioned Sister Janet.

Maybe a way of simplifying what Sister Debbie is asking. Some brethren believe that Jacob’s trouble is progressive since 1878. Some brethren believe, as I do myself, and I think, Brother Mark, that the battle that takes place in Ezekiel 38 is yet future, and that is when the Lord fights for them. But it’s.

We all believe the same thing is happening. But whether it began, whether the final, you know, trouble of Jacob began in 1878, or whether there’s going to be a great battle which some brethren associate with Armageddon and the last phase of Armageddon, I think, prophetically, we may have different ideas on that. Good. Thank you.

Thank you. No, it’s a good question, Sister Debbie. Good point.

So anyway, this man, Avi Avolo, I’m really impressed by some of his writings.

Let me just read something that he wrote here.

This goes back. He just wrote this in March because for the first time since creation, the Jewish people were not just receiving miracles from heaven. We were building something with our own hands for God. This is the tabernacle. Okay.

The first national project of the Jewish people begins with where Moses said, gather the people. This was not just a gathering. This was the first national project of the Jewish people. Men and women brought their talents, goldsmiths, weavers, carpenters, artists, and so forth.

And so, let’s see here. They were not just building a structure, they were building a place where God’s presence could dwell among them.

I don’t want to read the whole thing. When the Jewish people unite around a holy purpose, something extraordinary happens. God’s presence enters the world. This is the mission of the Jewish people. Not just to survive, not just to exist, but to help bring holiness to the world, to build a society that reflects God’s morality, God’s justice, and God’s truth.

And so I. That really impressed me. It shows to me that his heart is in the right place. Right? The Only thing that he needs is Zechariah 12:10, where he recognizes Jesus as his Messiah.

And once, you know, once he does that and others, then they will really be on their road to helping other nations walk up that highway of holiness. Is Detective.

Avi lives in the heartland. I think for those that don’t know, he’s in Judea, he’s in the Samaria area, and I love the fact that he also will say, we have to stand alone, not with the United States. That’s nice. The United States is helping.

Maybe God will bless them, you know, but he recognizes their salvation will come from God, not from a country, not from their own weapons, but from the sanctification that he talks about in his work. Yeah. Over. Very good. Thank you.

Any other thoughts on that? Have about 10 minutes left.

Question 3. How do the following verses describe the installment of the New Covenant and its expansion to gradually encompass all nations of earth?

Let’s just read a few of these.

Let’s see.

Oh, that Brother John Slavish, could you read for us?

Isaiah 54:1 3, and brother Jim Moss, Jeremiah 3, 14, 18. Foreign.

We’ll start with those. Isaiah 54:1 to 3.

Isaiah 54:1 3. Sing, O Baron, thou that did not bear, Break forth into singing and cry aloud Thou that did not travail with child. For more are the children of the desolate than the children of the married wife, saith the Lord. Enlarge the place of thy tent, and let them stretch forth the curtains of thine habitations. Spare not.

Lengthen thy cords and strengthen thy stakes. For thou shalt break forth on the right hand and on the left. Thy seed shall inherit the Gentiles and make the desolate cities to be inhabited. Okay.

Verse 1. More are the children of the desolate. Who would that be? Who does that refer to then? The children of the married woman in Abraham’s life who was desolate?

Sarah. Right.

More will be the children, because the Abrahamic promise encompasses the stars of heaven and the sand upon the seashore. Right. So now the Gospel age and the millennial age. The children will come from Jesus in the church, or I mean, in the kingdom. Jesus and the church, primarily.

So more are the children of the desolate than the children of the married woman. Enlarge the place of your tent. Let them stretch out the curtains of your dwellings. Now, it’s interesting on this verse 2 and 3. Brother Russell has no comments on this, which I find rather interesting.

But what I’ve heard and the thought I like is that this could picture the Expansion of the new covenant in the kingdom once other nations come in under, you know, the tutelage and the learning of the new covenant. In other words, take, take out the stack the stakes, enlarge the tent to include other nations that will come in under the blessings of that new covenant in the future.

To me, that’s one way in which the blessings of that covenant will expand to other nations.

Any other, any other thoughts on that?

Have you heard that thought before? I have from. It’s not original to me. I, I’ve heard the thought and I, I, I like it. Brother David, You’re saying that the married wife.

Excuse me, more of the children of the desolate. The desolate is Sarah, who had no child to begin with. Is that what you’re saying? Yeah, I agree with that. I think that’s exactly right.

It seems odd to us. In the King James, then the married wife, well, okay, that means the one who has children. It’s a different way. I don’t read Hebrew, but that’s what the Hebrew really intends. Right.

So Sarah, who did not have a child, is going to have more children than the one that did have a child. That is Hagar. Hagar, right. I think that’s the point. But Sarah was really what we would call the married wife.

That’s why the scripture is confusing. I think you’re exactly right that this shows that Christ and the church are going to have generate the world of mankind. Right. Yeah. We wonder a lot more children than just the ones who came through Hagar.

And then was there another verse? Did I send someone else have a verse to read? Okay. Oh yeah. Brother Jim.

Isaiah 54. Isaiah 3. Is that Isaiah 3:14 through 18. I know. Jeremiah 3.

Or Jeremiah. Jeremiah 3, 14, 18.

Return, O backsliding children, saith Jehovah, for I am a husband unto you, and I will take you one of a city and two of a family, and I will bring you to Zion, and I will give you shepherds according to my heart, who shall feed you with knowledge and understanding, and it shall come to pass when you are multiplied and increase in the land. In those days, saith Jehovah, they shall say no more.

The ark of the covenant of Jehovah, neither shall it come to mind, neither shall they remember it, neither shall they miss it, neither shall they be made anymore, and for at that time they shall call Jerusalem the throne of Jehovah, and all the nations shall be gathered unto it to the name of Jehovah, to Jerusalem, neither shall they walk anymore after the stubbornness of their Evil heart. In those days, the house of Judah shall walk with the house of Israel, and they shall come together out of the land of the north to the land that I gave to. For the inheritance of. Unto your fathers.

Yeah. Thank you.

So verse 17 is. Is quite interesting. At that time, Jerusalem shall be called the throne of the Lord. What does that conjure up? What does that mean in your minds, Brother D. Just like Washington is the capital of the United States, Jerusalem will be the capital of the world.

Yeah, and just as in the Tabernacle, the Shekinah light was a representation of God’s presence there. So somehow I think there will be some sort of visible representation of God in Jerusalem and the blessings coming from God to Israel and then through that channel to the rest of the world, and people will recognize that and see that, of course, the real throne of God is in heaven. You know, it’s not talking about that, but some sort of representation of God’s presence in Jerusalem.

And of course, for the Jewish people, they envisioned the rebuilding of the Temple, right? Ezekiel’s temple, the third Temple in. In the Old City today, there’s an instance called the Temple Institute. I went through that some years ago, the Temple Institute, and they’re collecting all of the articles for Ezekiel’s temple.

They have the silver trumpets, they have the red heifers. You know, all those. Those items are being made, you know, for their hope of building on the Temple Mount, which would be the third Temple, Ezekiel’s temple. Brother Tom.

Yes, and to go along with that thought about Jerusalem being the capital in Revelation 21, where we have the new Jerusalem coming down, we have the words and, and reference that God’s dwelling will somehow be represented there in verse. I’m sorry, Mike. It’s a small print.

Verse 3, and I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, now the dwelling of God is with men, and he will live with them. They will be his people, and God himself will be with them and be their God. So there. His presence will be there in some fashion, some manner.

Thank you, and we’ll close with. Okay. Yeah. Sister Janet has a comment.

Over here, brother.

Just a supporting scripture. Isaiah, the second chapter, verses three and four, and it shall come to pass in the latter days that the mountain of the house of the Lord shall be established as the highest of the mountains, and shall be lifted up above the hills, and all the nations shall flow to it, and many people shall come and say, come, let us go up to the mountain of the Lord, to the house of the God of Jacob, that he may teach us his ways and that we may walk in his paths. For out of Zion shall go forth the law and the word of the Lord from Jerusalem.

Yeah, thank you. That’s exactly the one I wanted to read. So there, I personally, I think in verse three, out of Zion shall go forth the law. That could refer to the heavenly phase of the kingdom. Right.

But the word of the Lord from Jerusalem, explanation of that to the peoples coming from literal Jerusalem. Right. So I think we have the heavenly and earthly phases of the kingdom pictured. I think in verse three, go to Dan. Yeah.

All beautiful thoughts and scriptures. Right. On bringing that out. That the mountain of the Lord will be established upon the tops of the mountains, and that mountain is going to be Jerusalem.

It’ll be Israel, and the blessings will pour out from Jerusalem to the rest of the world, and I like where Israel is and Egypt with the great Pyramid, how that’s the center of the earth. When you split up the earth into the map, that can be flattened out. It’s like in the very center.

So it’s a perfect place to have the kingdom take hold, and then I was just thinking of how God has blessed Israel and bringing back his people and restoring them, and those who are following after the law, they’re trying to bless their enemies and share the technologies that God has blessed them with to understand and to make the earth produce green, and I thought, what other way would we know that God is blessing Israel? Perhaps there will be rain that’ll be falling that’s greater than in Jerusalem, than in any other place.

And they’ll say, we have heard that God is with you, and they want that rain on their nation as well. Right, and that’s all. Thanks.

Yeah, thank you.

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